Sonic 2 GG AutoDemo Discussion

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...what exactly is there to discuss? Does this exist? Is it just a theory? You could make an AutoDemo of any game. It's just giving the computer the controls instead of the player (cutscenes in S3K for example).

 

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=33333

 

It's amazing! Beta GHZ! Smoother rotation! Unseen (unheard?) music! Old graphics! 16 bit Sonic at the end!

 

Herp derp. Well, I'm not sure what goodies there are inside or how they'll prove useful. I mean pretty cool I suppose, it's drastically different than the final, but not something I'm too interested in :s.

...I'm still waiting for his dump of the Sonic 06 disc :|

 

MarkeyJester made these:

http://mrjester.hapisan.com/01_Public/S2GGB%20Control%2002.gg

Rom without auto-control.

http://mrjester.hapisan.com/01_Public/ZoneActSet.exe

Changes what level you play.

 

I was looking through the graphics with Tile Molester and...

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EDIT: I think this is my first ever beta discovery! I'm proud! It's no Windy Valley beta, but something like this still holds value.

 

Here's those bad boys put together and given the S2 Autodemo pallete.

You're welcome.

 

I actually put the first three in game, replacing Sonic's usual waiting animation. It first used the smirk, and then the two rape faces.

 

Here, have another unused beta sprite.

 

Nice find! We be the Graphic Guys™ from now on. New proto? We'll search for the goods!

 

Okay, not to spam here, but I put these two together, because there's a bit of mystery with them.



Now, I thought that these were beta skidding sprites, due to how the skidding looks in the final:



But, taking that into consideration, they look... awkward. kazblox on the IRC channel actually came up with a good theory, however, that they are actually... sneezing.

Similarly to the unused Sonic CD sprites:



What are our takes on this?

 

Was Sonic having the sniffles going to be a character trait at some point? Unused sprites in both CD and Sonic 2 GG, and he sneezes in the CD intro. (This one is questionable)

 

How did I miss those when I was looking through his sprite set for Green Hills Zone? :V Anyways I'm disassembling the game because why the hell not? :V I'll see what I can add to the game or possibly fix to make it less buggy. :V

 

Enormous palm trees in 00 02:

   

unused blocks still in sonic 2 final:



curvy stuff

 

 

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He looks like it. You can even see some snot (or spit)!

EDIT: Added quote.

 

Sorry for the doublepost, but I quickly whipped together this comparison of the autodemo and the final.

(Note: I used GGFullSMS.)

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http://tcrf.net/Proto:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_%28Sega_Master_System,_Game_Gear%29

Okay folks! Thanks to kazblox, we now have a TCRF page for this! Though he got some credits wrong and is accusing me of being stoned, it's pretty good.

In other news, I'm working on getting a full sprite sheet of the sprites in the ROM together, so look forward to that I suppose.

 

A magazine had a partial level map of GHZ 1! All these discoveries and Sonic Retro sTILL HASN'T FUCKING ACCEPTED ME YET GAH!!!

 

Retro knew about that map since before this was even dumped, in the first post that was made about the demo.

Those smiling sprites though.... those are horrifying.