SEGA Mega Drive Classics Thread!

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  1. Pacca

    Pacca Having an online identity crisis since 2019 Member

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    They definitely have to add mod support to the older emulator. I've seen that several people already expressed this need on the steam forums, and it would allow you to enjoy the mods without having to run the currently buggy and very laggy room. As it stands, it's basically putting down users with slow computers or bugged out rooms who want to play rom hacks through steam, even though something like this seems like it could be added to the old emulator quite effortlessly.
     
  2. LuigiXHero

    LuigiXHero Well-Known Member Member

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    Well all the roms are uncompressed anyways so if you wanted to you could just download the hacks and play them in a different emulator.
     
  3. Pacca

    Pacca Having an online identity crisis since 2019 Member

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    Well, I got it to work alright now. Only problem for me now is that stupid, stupid SRAM bug; one of my hacks is completely disfunctional in the emulator because it can't write to SRAM, and it's sort of pissing me off a little. Besides that, now that I finally got it to work, I'm really enjoying it. Just need to wait for Sega to work out the kinks and patch that emulator up.
     
  4. โบวี่

    โบวี่ Tsingtao Enjoyer Member

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  5. Crash

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    Haha yeah, that's why I haven't uploaded my Sonic Tetris hack yet. Who knows what'll happen copyright-wise, no doubt Sega will have to keep a close eye out for and delete anything even vaguely infringing.
     
  6. VAdaPEGA

    VAdaPEGA whom belongs the red cat, complaints appreciated Member

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    I'm no expert on this matter so please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Going by how Garry's mod has hundreds of model rips of copyrighted characters or items, it's fair to assume that ROM hacks shouldn't get any issues from having characters from other franchises or even just the gameplay concept.
     
  7. Selbi

    Selbi The Euphonic Mess Member

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    I think you cannot compare Garry's Mod to this case, because its Workshop lists thousands of assets that anyone can freely use and download. The difference to the Clasics thing here is that you need to own the specific game as DLC before you can play mods of it. So if you were to Kirby in Sonic 1 for example, you would have to purchase Sonic 1 first, money that only Sega will see any of.

    Arguably, the whole thing is in a legal loophole anyway, especially because each ROM is technically able to be an entire game, and it's simply not possible to playtest them all for everything that could be hidden inside there as copyright infringement or even pornographic stuff.

    As it stands, I feel like the system is on thin ice the way it is now, but until we hear official word on it, nothing we can do about it.
     
  8. redhotsonic

    redhotsonic Also known as RHS Member

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    To use Mario modules in Garry's mod, you would have to buy... Garry's mod... so... have I missed your point? =P


    Anyway, I decided to give this a good try and while SRAM doesn’t work, at least you can make save-states. That’s better than nothing right? Hopefully they’ll add SRAM into it (and online multiplayer also). Then I’ll be a happy bunny.



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  9. Clownacy

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    BFD's drums sound... slow. I mean, I am judging by rhs' video, here, but still, it's pretty noticeable when GHZ kicks in. Really, it's like S1 Beta. What's up with this emulator?
     
  10. JoenickROS

    JoenickROS ROS (bug fixing in progress) Member

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    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=676240001&searchtext=

    Yeah someone uploaded it, and it says Crash 2014 on the bottom, but now that I've seen your post, I know it's not you that uploaded it. Made a comment on it for him to remove it.
    Edit: and of course he gives me lip. Flagged him as well.
     
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  11. Pacca

    Pacca Having an online identity crisis since 2019 Member

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    I'm down right tired of the assholes who think they can upload entire, previously released and obviously licensed games as "mods" without permission. I've spent a fare chunk of the time reporting them, just 'cause I want this whole idea to work out so much. Personally, I feel that the only way to keep a proper check on preventing illicit roms from surfacing would be to have a blacklist of sorts for roms which have previously been uploaded and removed; yes, someone could easily edit a few bytes and re-upload, but it would at least keep the idiots who don't know how to hex edit at bay.
     
  12. AURORA☆FIELDS

    AURORA☆FIELDS so uh yes Exiled

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    And also the hackers whose mods have been uploaded by someone asshole
     
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  13. FireRat

    FireRat Do Not Interact With This User, Anywhere!!! Exiled

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    Uh, considering that only few groups of people knows how to actually mod these ROMs, and the author(s)' appear on the screen at some point or another... On my humble opinion, I find the extra advertising absolutely fine... specially given I do not have to pay 5 damn dollars just to put it there.
     
  14. TheInvisibleSun

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    Well I don't, especially when the uploaded work is outdated or in some other way not ready or to the author's liking to release on the platform. Imagine if someone released some random old version of your work on a new platform, with reported bugs and errors you've already fixed, and design decisions you've already changed, still present. Is that the advertising you would want? Personally, I would like to at least have a bit of control over my work being uploaded on this type of platform, especially when I've seen people on Youtube mistakenly showcase prior, non-definitive versions of my hacks.
     
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  15. Pacca

    Pacca Having an online identity crisis since 2019 Member

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    I heavily agree with theInvisibleSun. I have had my incomplete, buggy, not meant to be presented as a proper release hack be shown off as if it were complete, and it absolutely pissed me off. Besides, what if one wants to update the rom, or add stuff to the mod description? I don't want to bother with a third party to do that, especially if it's someone who blantently ignored Segas post saying not to add work you have not made yourself.
     
  16. Crash

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    Haha oh well, looks like it's gone now. I went ahead and uploaded it myself, we'll see what happens.
     
  17. amphobius

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    amphobius, since you're both trustworthy and a nice person, please be my guest :)
    I asked on Sonic Retro as well but nobody picked it up. If anyone complains about permission, feel free to link to this post.
     
  19. redhotsonic

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    About people uploading mods that aren't there's... what if people change their username? I mean, I've uploaded Sonic Bash, but as soon as I change my username to "Big Shooter" (an example, because I do change my username on Steam at times, depending what game I'm playing), Sonic Bash is going to get reported.
     
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  20. nineko

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    In my opinion, there should be a layer of moderation before any submitted entry becomes public. This might cause a delay of a few days if their moderators are busy, but it would help to label things as "official" and remove the need to report them later, as once an entry is verified (as uploaded by the creator or by an allowed third party), it will always be verified, with a blue check à la Facebook or something.
     
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