Sonic Month: Sonic CD, Chaos, 2 and 3 Prototype Discussion

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  1. Bluestreak

    Bluestreak Lady in red, living in dread. Member

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    Also, it's nice how this proto proves once and for all that Dust Hill was never the name of the desert stage. Heck, ever since I saw all that Sonic 2 concept art, I was thinking Sand Shower was the name tbh.
     
  2. MGHACKS

    MGHACKS Hey there! Bet you didn't find me around Member

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    I wish for new prototypes for games that didn't have prototypes before. If there was a Sonic 1 prototype that had Sonic go fast before Yuji Naka told them to enable the speed cap. That'll be awesome. Maybe it'll look like this:
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    We need Sonic 3A prototypes. You might say, there are prototypes of Sonic 3A, but they are only a single difference in each one comparing to the retail version. I'm talking about this type of prototypes:
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    There are three things in common with these prototypes, they either have pallet changes, new features from the zones such as Sonic running down Ice Cap and the Sonic 2 sprites for both Sonic and Tails. If there was a prototype like that, that'll be awesome or even some zones added to Sonic3A before it was split into 2 parts. That'll be cool, right?
     
  3. Bluestreak

    Bluestreak Lady in red, living in dread. Member

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    Oh yeah! Or the SEGA Saturn Chaotix prototype that Tom Kalinske has somewhere but can't find.
     
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  4. MarkeyJester

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    I believe footage was discovered of the ball in motion:

    All of these prototype releases are nice an all, but I am anticipating a Sonic 1 prototype personally. It's the one I will immediately go look at if it ever comes to light, most specifically the one you've shared multiple screenshots of, I have several theories already; one such being that this particular proto had no V-scrolling.

    Given the proto releases this month, I wonder if they already have a Sonic 1 prototype and are saving it for the end of the month, a proto of Sonic 1 is highly rare so it'd be the pièce de résistance to release last, right? We'll see...
     
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  5. Ralakimia

    Ralakimia Pour your misery down on me Member

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    I am personally keeping my hopes down in the case that it never surfaces, but that also means if it does, I'll shit myself :p

    I wasn't even expecting any more Sonic 2 protos, either, I thought it was gonna be just spin-offs for the Genesis protos.

    Fun fact about the new Sonic 2 proto, the date on it says September 14th, making it only 4 days older than Beta 4, and a little less older than the CENSOR beta. They really crunched.
     
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  6. NeoFusionBox

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    I'm surprised that the "S" monitor IS present and fully working in that recent proto usind Debug Mode, even tho' it list as the "?" monitor.

    I also would kill to see both the Sonic 1 proto and Sonic 3 with S2 sprites and all.
     
  7. MGHACKS

    MGHACKS Hey there! Bet you didn't find me around Member

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    Same here, even though there is Sonic 3 Complete but it doesn't feel the same.
     
  8. Bluestreak

    Bluestreak Lady in red, living in dread. Member

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    The Tokyo Toy Show prototype of Sonic 1 any early betas in general would be awesome.

    As for Sonic 3, if we found the proto where these screenshots came from, or with all the original Jackson music that was cut out, I'd die happy.

    (Note: the Red Sonic (placeholder Knuckles) in Desert Palace may be a mockup).


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  9. Spanner

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    https://www.twitch.tv/hiddenpalace/

    Another Sonic 2 proto in 35 minutes. But is is it from the Master System or Game Gear?

    Or could it be this one with the beta Casino Night having an update with animated tiles. Maybe that is tonight...unless it's not. drx could always give us an 8-bit S2 instead!
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  10. MGHACKS

    MGHACKS Hey there! Bet you didn't find me around Member

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    Darn it! Darn it! Darn it!

    If there isn't a good Sonic prototype by the 16th November, I'm gonna order a Salad Plain at McDonald's, if they had it though.
     
  11. Spanner

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    After Wai but with final sprites. This may very well be the build I've been on about.

    EDIT: August 21, 1992. (Alpha)

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  12. Bluestreak

    Bluestreak Lady in red, living in dread. Member

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    How would y'all have felt if they kept the Wai sprites through the development to the end? I think in some ways it would look better tbh.
     
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    Evidently the final proto is going to be big. Sonic 1 prototype anyone?
     
  14. Samey

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    Oh boy I can't wait for the 16th :p

    I'm still shocked we have the complete beta tiles for Casino Night
     
  15. MarkeyJester

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    Hell yes, I can't think of a proto that would be exciting enough to leave last, as I said in my last post, it has to be a Sonic 1 prototype of some type, I would be shocked if it weren't. We have none, and we've known about their existence for a very long time...

    I would love for it to be the Tokyo Toy show one, but I'm doubtful. Something tells me if it is a Sonic 1 proto, it'll be the one with the UFOs in MZ, the "Let's Go" sign and old graphics for SYZ, and probably utilising the cycle pallet in the ROM at final rev 00's offset $001C0A.

    I shall be having a nice long sleep during night Friday, so hopefully I can be awake for the reveal, I'm so pleased it's on a Saturday night =3
     
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  16. Ralakimia

    Ralakimia Pour your misery down on me Member

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    So, object 5A in this new proto is the unused CNZ Crawl badnik, but it's an older version. It was made for the old art that's in the Simon Wai proto that got removed and replaced with newer art. In this video, I have restored the art and allowed it to be placed in debug mode:
     
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  17. Spanner

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    Either that or an early Sonic 3 with Sonic 2 sprites.
     
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  18. FireRat

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    I vote for Crackers and Chaotix, the most mysterious game out there, no matter if underrated.
     
  19. MGHACKS

    MGHACKS Hey there! Bet you didn't find me around Member

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    We better get the Sonic 1 proto out of the way otherwise my patience for that will be wasted.
     
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  20. MGHACKS

    MGHACKS Hey there! Bet you didn't find me around Member

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    Tomorrow's the last day for Sonic Month.

    Everyone make your preditctions now with reasons!
     
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