Jump to content

  •  

  • Photo

    Member Problems


    • This topic is locked This topic is locked
    26 replies to this topic

    #19 GalliumGrant

    GalliumGrant

      Herp de la Derp~!

    • Member
    • 385 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Interests:Playing Sonic Hacks / Spriting / Composing and Remixing

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:04 AM

    You, know what? I think these people do need a reminder. Sure, I've been quite a n0ob for quite a bit. Just look at my very first topic... (Which I posted in the Lounge by mistake (my fault).) At first, I was pretty nervous talking to you guys for the first time, cause to meet such intelligent people online for the first time, let alone people who weren't stupid bratty twelve year-old brats that whined about stuff like;

    "u likes the 360!!11!! ur gai!!1!!! Ps3 is gawd!1!1"
    "noes!!11!! 360 pwzzz yer mawm!!1!1!!!"

    "lady gahgah is da best!!!111! u fhail!!111!!"
    "at lest i'm nawt a prostitute!!!11!! lolololol"

    However, there are people here who are being extremely dumb. I say we up the stakes. I learned, that to get better, you must study, learn, and spend some time to do what you want sometimes. This is a good thing, as it separates the bad newbie hackers from the good. The problem is that they might simply forget, or just don't care.

    I approve of Tweaker's plan. If we are going to deal with this squaggle, we go for the bullseye. Stop the bad noobs from getting into the site, with a test, and an introduction to prove the persons intellegence. If we have a forum specifically for these introductions, we make it a rule that you have to read the rules, so the people signing up have an idea of how to behave around SSRG. Than we make a test for them to state three rules of the SSRG, if they fail, the account is terminated, or something a little less harsh. If it doesn't work, I say we can try something else. Trial and Error.
    • 0

    #20 Qjimbo

    Qjimbo

      7 Chaos Emeralds

    • Pro User
    • 813 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:Vancouver, BC
    • Interests:Webdesign, HTML, PHP,
      Programming, Delphi, C++

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 03:09 AM

    We used to have a forum for introductions and they were a requirement, this was back in 2008. As anyone from that time will tell you, this had the effect of killing the board, there were only a few members on at a time. Most people were put off by having to demonstrate their "worthiness", and some members, who had proven themselves to be contributive at other boards, simply abandoned their accounts after being presented with this step. The current Entrance Quiz isn't perfect, I'm willing to admit that, but the concept behind has been the best at maintaining a balance of filtering people out and also not putting people off.

    Some people slip through the net, but that happens on any forum, it's impossible to make a perfect test. I don't believe our site or forum has enough incentive for people to spend a long time writing an introduction, we can quickly see what they're like from their posts, and ban on sight if they turn out not to be contributive.
    • 0

    #21 tristanseifert

    tristanseifert

      I make... THINGS!

    • Member
    • 372 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:Austin, TX

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 03:39 AM

    We used to have a forum for introductions and they were a requirement, this was back in 2008. As anyone from that time will tell you, this had the effect of killing the board, there were only a few members on at a time. Most people were put off by having to demonstrate their "worthiness", and some members, who had proven themselves to be contributive at other boards, simply abandoned their accounts after being presented with this step. The current Entrance Quiz isn't perfect, I'm willing to admit that, but the concept behind has been the best at maintaining a balance of filtering people out and also not putting people off.

    Some people slip through the net, but that happens on any forum, it's impossible to make a perfect test. I don't believe our site or forum has enough incentive for people to spend a long time writing an introduction, we can quickly see what they're like from their posts, and ban on sight if they turn out not to be contributive.

    Well, then let's get something super-duper-mega awesome that no other site has. Then we can add an introduction forum. Maybe so that without writing a little intro, you have Guest access with writing privileges, but only when you make that post and staff approves you can you get full access. Just my (likely idiotic) idea.
    • 0

    #22 Spanner

    Spanner

      Tool

    • Staff
    • 1797 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:United Kingdom

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 08:09 PM

    We used to have a forum for introductions and they were a requirement, this was back in 2008. As anyone from that time will tell you, this had the effect of killing the board, there were only a few members on at a time. Most people were put off by having to demonstrate their "worthiness", and some members, who had proven themselves to be contributive at other boards, simply abandoned their accounts after being presented with this step. The current Entrance Quiz isn't perfect, I'm willing to admit that, but the concept behind has been the best at maintaining a balance of filtering people out and also not putting people off.

    Some people slip through the net, but that happens on any forum, it's impossible to make a perfect test. I don't believe our site or forum has enough incentive for people to spend a long time writing an introduction, we can quickly see what they're like from their posts, and ban on sight if they turn out not to be contributive.

    The trialist system was a better system than any other method around right now. The entrance test is ridiculously easy and has provided this board with a share of idiots. I'm sure that there are other people, including staff members, who would like to see the trialist system back. After 15 posts or so, judge them and either make them a full member or let them stand out in the cold. If they're horrible before then, just show them the door. People who have been unbanned should also receive a trial period as well in order to see if unbanning the user was a good decision or not, although these matters should be discussed with staff members before implementation anyway.

    You need to figure out how to make this place alive again. After all, this board wasn't intended for hacktube only. I have given you a few ideas anyway, but it seems that you aren't interested right now. =P

    Edited by SOTI, 24 August 2010 - 08:12 PM.

    • 0

    #23 Selbi

    Selbi

      Tief.Tiefer

    • Pro User
    • 1853 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:L√ľneburg, Germany

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 08:51 PM

    The trialist system would certainly be a good idea. The entrance quiz really just keeps out the idiotic idiots, but not the half idiots, if you get what I mean.

    Also Qjimbo: A few weeks back, I sent you an important PM, you haven't answered yet. If it is because you didn't see it yet, I'm asking you to do it now.
    • 0

    #24 OrdosAlpha

    OrdosAlpha

      Battle to the death on the big bridge, bitch?

    • Administrator
    • 1527 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:Glasgow, Scotland

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 09:18 PM

    We could have the best of both worlds in regard to new member accounts. Make the entrance test harder and have a test by-pass option. Those who pass the test attain full member status, those that by-pass the test get placed into the trialist group and have 15~20 posts to show that they deserve promotion to the member group, if not they either get the door or left to wallow in trialist limbo.
    • 0

    #25 Hanoch

    Hanoch

      5 Chaos Emeralds

    • Pro User
    • 310 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:Israel

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 09:20 PM

    What I dont like about the trailist system is that you can just spend 15 posts being a good member, Ie not acting like an idiot, and then you "remove your shell" and become the dumbest thing alive. Of course, you could make the trialist only able to post in some forums.

    I think the most reasonable forums would be:

    The hacking forum (Disscusion Q & A only) to test how smart the guy is
    The creative works forum (Art & Music) to test how talented this guy is (unless he is trolling by stealing work of course, that would lead to instant ban)

    And the lounge as a read only (We dont want people to think we only hack stuff do we?)

    Edited by Hanoch, 24 August 2010 - 09:21 PM.

    • 0

    #26 MarkeyJester

    MarkeyJester

      Driving The Last Spike

    • Pro User
    • 1845 posts
    • Gender:Male

    Posted 24 August 2010 - 11:29 PM

    What I dont like about the trailist system is that you can just spend 15 posts being a good member, Ie not acting like an idiot, and then you "remove your shell" and become the dumbest thing alive.

    Usually it's the other way around "because" of the stupidity, so I have yet to see this happen.

    Of course, you could make the trialist only able to post in some forums.

    I think the most reasonable forums would be:

    The hacking forum (Disscusion Q & A only) to test how smart the guy is
    The creative works forum (Art & Music) to test how talented this guy is (unless he is trolling by stealing work of course, that would lead to instant ban)

    And the lounge as a read only (We dont want people to think we only hack stuff do we?)

    I could have sworn those were veiwable through the trialist system before.

    On a side note, the topic was about the amount of members who took it upon them selves to have a go, or snap up at other members if they saw fit, and that they should learn to stay out of trouble and let the staff decide what is right or wrong, and take the appropriate action necessary.
    • 0

    #27 Tongara

    Tongara

      5 Chaos Emeralds

    • Exile
    • 360 posts
    • Gender:Male
    • Location:Birmingham, UK
    • Interests:Having Sex and making people cry.

    Posted 25 August 2010 - 08:17 PM

    The trialist system was a better system than any other method around right now. The entrance test is ridiculously easy and has provided this board with a share of idiots. I'm sure that there are other people, including staff members, who would like to see the trialist system back. After 15 posts or so, judge them and either make them a full member or let them stand out in the cold. If they're horrible before then, just show them the door. People who have been unbanned should also receive a trial period as well in order to see if unbanning the user was a good decision or not, although these matters should be discussed with staff members before implementation anyway.

    You need to figure out how to make this place alive again. After all, this board wasn't intended for hacktube only. I have given you a few ideas anyway, but it seems that you aren't interested right now. =P

    I see this as a fair idea.

    We could have the best of both worlds in regard to new member accounts. Make the entrance test harder and have a test by-pass option. Those who pass the test attain full member status, those that by-pass the test get placed into the trialist group and have 15~20 posts to show that they deserve promotion to the member group, if not they either get the door or left to wallow in trialist limbo.

    This also sounds like it could work well.

    Also Qjimbo: A few weeks back, I sent you an important PM, you haven't answered yet. If it is because you didn't see it yet, I'm asking you to do it now.

    Qjimbo is very busy right now with personal matters, but I'm sure he will reply to you as soon as he can. :downs:

    What I dont like about the trailist system is that you can just spend 15 posts being a good member, Ie not acting like an idiot, and then you "remove your shell" and become the dumbest thing alive.

    If this were ever to happen, then I'm sure the staff would show said user the way out of the forum.

    Edited by Tongara, 25 August 2010 - 08:20 PM.

    • 0




    0 user(s) are reading this topic

    0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users