Sonic 2 Titanium Upgrade

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  1. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil resident psycho Member

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    I really should get round to finishing that art for you sometime. It looks terribly incomplete as it is.



    Well, I think it's amazing, despite the incompleteness =P
     
  2. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil resident psycho Member

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    Well, guess I better throw us back on topic again, this time with a video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3h95LxullA

    Basically, this video explains what I've been doing the past couple days. Criticisms and feedback welcome.
     
  3. redhotsonic

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    Why did you double post within 2 hours?  You could of just edited your previous post.
     
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    ThomasThePencil resident psycho Member

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    Why edit the post when the two posts are on quite different topics?

    I'm just confused =
     
  5. OrdosAlpha

    OrdosAlpha RIGHT! Naebody move! Root Admin

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    STOP FUCKING QUOTING THE POST ABOVE FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!!!!!

    And double posting is seriously frowned upon, it's bad forum etiquette, just like quoting the post above you is.
     
  6. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil resident psycho Member

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    Well, I've kept quiet about this hack for a bit, haven't I?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xw7WPw5524

    Discuss. Also feel free to tell me if I should give the viewers some debug fun/Tails abuse in future videos.
     
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  7. Mike B Berry

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    I don't think asking for discussion like that is a smart idea. Anyway. Right off the bat I noticed a few palette/graphical glitches. Not to fond of either at that. But it is slowly making its way along. Plus stopping and returning to the menu buys up more of our time. Use a video editor to crop your clips into compilations of some sort. One of which will not bring us back to point A. In HPZ the Object placement and layout are purely dreadful... The planes aren't fitting for the springs you laid down over the FG. I see a lot of unfinished/unused/broken objects in this stage as well. Which might be something to look into fixing. Platforms galore  and scrambling to place an egg prison... As stated in the Point A sentence, it'd be easier to cut the video out from there and continue with another. Screwing around with 2 of them, showing off a graphical glitch that is annoying to us all... Some broken physics. Trying to grab all rings in sight. MZ being completely unchanged, wasting a perfect a mere 46% of the damn video. I'm not truly pleased with this. The only good thing that came out of this was ARZ sparing new different art. ITs too similar to the original; which it is but with an addition of lines and simple cracks in the architecture, but I rest my case.

    1.5 out of 10 my friend.
     
  8. ThomasThePencil

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    *looks at Mike's post*

    Ooookey dokey....was the complaint about HPZ REALLY necessary? No, because [a] it's almost completely unfinished and it won't be accessible in the official release anyway. As for Rusty Riot Zone, I know it's unchanged from the original MTZ, but you should remember what happened the last time I tried to make a palette change on that sucker (I'll give you a hint: everything was fucked up). Plus, this hack is still early in its development stage, so anything shown in the video is not set in stone and may change before the official release. As a final note, please try to be more constructive concerning the content of the video next time. It would really be useful to me.
     
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  9. Alriightyman

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    Please do not show unnessasry content. For example, hidden palace zone. You said yourself, it will not be in the final release so why did you even bother to show it? Also, metropolis zone. Did you edit anything? I couldn't tell. I saw act 2 was the same and stopped watching. So, there was no need to include it. If changes were made in act 3, then you should have shown that, not the whole zone.


    As for ARZ, the background is broken near the top of the screen. Obviously, the water surface, bubble maker is also broken. You should fix those. You may do so by either moving robotnik's art, or the water surface and bubbles somewhere else.
     
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  10. fdswerty

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    The grey sky in ARZ is quite weird, you can change that to blue, or one colour that isn't "weird" for that sky. Also, I agree with Alriighty, why are you posting stuff that is unfinished, or that isn't going to be in the final relase? That makes no-sense.
     
  11. ThomasThePencil

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    I screwed up there when I said "final release", because there is no possible way I could release all the stuff this hack will have in one release =P

    I fixed my previous post to say "official release", meaning the first public release. However, HPZ will be accessible in a future update, but not yet. As for Rusty Riot Zone, I will soon get around to changing it.

    Now, are you three getting mad at me for all of this?
     
  12. redhotsonic

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    Let me try.

    If HPZ is really uncomplete, then what he fuck was the point in showing the video? And why did you show us over 6 minutes of MTZ? Nothing is different from the original Sonic 2, just you assing around, especially in MTZ3; I want my 6 minutes of my life back!

    I've told you before a while ago, stop posting videos, I mean, come on! When you come to release your hack to everyone, I won't download it. Why? I've already watched you play it; what's the point in me playing it? Fine, you might want some advice saying "Is this layout any good?" and you want some criticism. My advice, get 1 or 2 people to play it (or show them a video) and they'll tell you. That way, people like me won't know what to expect and I might want to play it that way.

    For example, I've had something set up in my ARZ2 layout which I've been told by members like ValleyBell, Cinossu and StephenUK saying it's awesome and wasn't expecting it. I haven't shown many others it, otherwise that'll give away the surprise. If I did, then all my hard work would've been wasted because there's no surprise to it any more. If I showed you a video of it right now, you'd be gobsmacked and love it, but when you come to play it (whenever I release it), you'll think, "oh, this again, nothing special, seen it before."

    So please, for the love of SSRG, stop posting videos and posting uncomplete shit. We don't want to know. Get something complete and finished, and show 1 or 2 people (or a screenshot to everyone).

    Now, for my criticism; so the video doesn't go to complete waste. I'd say is that I do like the ARZ2 music, it's different and unique, and suits the level well. Your layouts are improving, but still needs neatening. We've already seen the ARZ boss, I see you've fixed the bubbles (almost), but nothing different; still no match compared to my ARZ boss. And for obvious reasons, I am not going to talk about HPZ nor MTZ.
     
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  13. Spanner

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    I screwed up there when I said "final release", because there is no possible way I could release all the stuff this hack will have in one release =P

    I fixed my previous post to say "official release", meaning the first public release. However, HPZ will be accessible in a future update, but not yet. As for Rusty Riot Zone, I will soon get around to changing it.

    Now, are you three getting mad at me for all of this?



    I think they have a right to be mad at you as you constantly ignore what people have suggested for good reasons.
     
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    I'm not posting a video this time, but I'm working on Rusty Riot Zone Act 1. Also, here's a little preview of something else I'm working on...

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    Guess what I'm working on. =P
     
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    That doesn't look too bad if I had to be honest here, maybe a little more work around the area where his arm is connected to his body, to help distinguish between the head, body and arm, but otherwise, nice.
     
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    I have to agree with MJ here.  The arm does looks a little odd, kind of like his hand is floating in the air.  Other than that, it looks good!
     
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    Alright, I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    THE GOOD NEWS: I'm coming close to fixing the Super Tails animation issue, which means that I can soon show a video as him! :D Also, Rusty Riot Zone Act 1 is being worked on, so I'll have that finished by the time I post the next update, which will be a fairly big update. ;)

    THE BAD NEWS: I recently ported the S3K rings manager, but I'm getting a game-breaking issue: the levels freeze while loading. I don't know where this issue is coming from, but I've tried to fix it and failed. Any suggestions on fixing this?

    I know I've kept quiet for a while, but I promise this next update will have a lot of cool stuff!

    EDIT: Also, I'll fix Super Tails' arm later; I can't be arsed right now =P
     
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    Please don't post a video of Super Tails. We know what he looks like from S3K. As for the S3K rings, we can't help as we can't see your coding, but if you followed shobiz's guide from Retro, I can assure you it's fine. I hope you made a back-up this time. I'd advise starting from your back-up and try again following each step closely.
     
  19. ThomasThePencil

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    Hate to burst your bubble, but I gave Super Tails new sprites, otherwise I wouldn't have the animation issue concerning him =

    EDIT: As for the coding, I guess I'll let you have a look at it, because I followed every step of shobiz' guide closely and the level freezing issue was the result.

    I am definitely making a back-up once this is fixed =|
     
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    You've already posted a screenshot of his new sprites. So you don't need to post a video. A screenshot of his new sprites in-game once you've fixed it will suffice.
     
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