sonic 2 edited 3.73 early demo version (sonic hack)

this hack was made using a disassembly and sonLVL for level layout. the palettes are the same as the original. music has not been changed. the only that has been changed is the level layout. hopefully there is no collision problems. if there is any thing that needs to be improved just let me know and will try my best to improve it. any problems or glitches again let me know and i will try to fix it. feel free to share your opinions. by the way this only a 2 level demo the full version will be out soon. you can help me improve my hacks by telling me what needs to be improved.

play it and tell what you think

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Gameplay video (youtube)

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Holy Fuck, where do I begin?

Well for starters, congrats for leaving the palette alone. This time my eyes didn't bleed, so that's definitely a step up.

Moving on, layouts.....  It seems you've discovered SonED2, cause from the looks of things, it seems you just had a field day with the layout. Mismatching chunks, monitor boxes everywhere, enemies everywhere, singular linear paths. Come on now, did you really test out this level? More than half the level doesn't even make sense. It's nice to see you've gotten rid of that soundtrack and old ass Son2MP3, otherwise you'd still be at the bottom of the barrel.

Nevertheless, better attempt. Now seeing where you stand, I suggest you plan out your layouts, that way when you make them, it won't create a clusterfuck like this.

Also, please, for the love of god, make the intro video shorter. Seriously, most of it is unneeded. People don't want to watch you play other games that aren't the hack. Just make a quick splash of the name, and move on. 15-20 is the max an intro should be. That's rule of thumb. If I have to guess where the actual play through of your hack starts at, then there's an issue.

 

This is much better than your previous hack, however I will say this you have too many monitors within a giving area. I ended up having like 16 lives by the end of EHZ1, it's best to spread out the power ups. Also there are tons of rings in certain areas. Finally I should have died right before getting to the signpost because there's a botomless pit however since I hit a spring it maxed out Sonic's velocity making him run across the pit. Other than that the levels flow pretty well. Just get rid of some of the monitors and rings and you're good to go IMO.

 

...I gave this hack a go... My god, I've never seen these mismatching layouts before....

So, let's see...:

Firstly, most of your layouts are mismatching, that makes the game look weird or whatever.

Secondly, there are many rings... Hell, I got like 400 in ehz1. I'd actually say it was the only thing I liked from this hack, aside from the monitors.

And, there are many objects that are floating, or that are even placed randomly. There are even some areas where the games lags too much...

And as Ravenfreak said, this is better than your old hack. I can see that you've improved, but there's still some mismatching chunks.

Jesus, I hope you improve this. I know you're still a beginner, but oh well...

These we're just my two cents.

 

Someone really needs to make a new Son2MP3, it is a cool tool to use.

 

Well, there's always the alternative of making the hack work in Mode 1. Much better alternative, but unfortunately no modern emulators except for Kega can support it. The need for external programs to do music is way to restrictive and makes it to where the music has to be at a certain locations for the plugin or program to pickup on it. All in all, I think the need for the tool isn't that big, and personally, I find it kinda amateurish. Not that I'm too big into musical hacking, but the way a tool like SonMP3 is used just is way to much effort.

 

Wow, you completely ignored pretty much all advice I've posted, but I'll post it again.

> Objects aren't placed properly. There's enemies in the floor, there's rings floating randomly, there are things floating. It's a disaster. Why are there so many rings in the first level anyway?

> Overall level design. The design is confusing. There's no flow, and the player can get very confused. Keep the layout and design simple. Go in one direction, don't make it flat, with a few branching paths.

> Chunk placement. Broken chunks all over the place. It's butt ugly. It creates countless collision problems, you fall through the ground. It's not something anyone wants to play.

Start with one hack, one level. Take your time. Finish the level. Then comb through it again. Test it again. Then test it again and again. Only then should you release it. Release it when you can can say that there are no imperfections to the best of your knowledge. No floating objects, no broken chunks, no collision problems, and for God's sake, don't make a new topic about every little edit you make, because frankly this looks pretty much like the previous video.

Also, your boss takes how many hits? It's a bore watching you play it. Keep the hits at or below 8.

I completely disagree. When I click on something, I know who made it. No one gives a shit about some intro, no one wants to see a minute long intro to your video. It's wasting my time that I could be using blowing bubbles, and also wasting my internet bandwidth.

Someone really needs to make a new Son2MP3, it is a cool tool to use.



No. No it isn't.

 

i haven't ignored your advice. it helped me make a batter hack and i can do what ever level layout  i want and yes i understand objects are randomly placed. the boss takes 40 hits why? because i want it to be 40 hits. its my hack i can what ever i want. if you don't like it don't play it 

 

I can't see many people playing it then. It's a mess, chunks everywhere, enemies you can't avoid and the list goes on. Do you enjoy playing your hack? Well I don't feel anybody here did.

 

So you're going to deep fry your hack? Well in that case Gordon Ramsay has something to say about your hack.

 

Can't be arsed, got to watch a 2 minute advert first and cannot skip =P

 

i haven't ignored your advice. it helped me make a batter hack and i can do what ever level layout  i want and yes i understand objects are randomly placed. the boss takes 40 hits why? because i want it to be 40 hits. its my hack i can what ever i want. if you don't like it don't play it 



The problem is no one wants to play it. And I mean no one. This is an utter and complete wreck. If you don't want input or help, then I'll just put it bluntly. This is a piece of garbage that I don't even waste time watching a playthrough of. I didn't watch the video because it's exactly the same as your old video. It's boring, repedative, and outright broken. You didn't take my advice. You read it, and shat it out. Yes you understand objects float randomly and it's a mess, but you don't care. That's the problem. You don't care about making a quality hack. Quality isn't subjective, if you seriously think what you released is the best thing out there then you have some other issues you need to work out. That being said, I'm no longer going to be reading any of your topics or posts because you're clearly a lost cause.

 

you know something. im getting really annoyed. that fact i worked really hard on this hack and i was working on it all night and no ones cares and no one wants to help. one thing i don't think this is best hack ever besides why would i think that?. i don't want to cancel this hack. 

so if really want me to improve then tell me what needs to be improved and with 1 or 3 screen shots  

 

You know how you can improve this hack, you little shit sucking, penis licking, anal probing, bitch?

Shuting the fuck up and listening. Everybody in here is fucking telling you the problem, you just seem to lack the ability to use your god damn peebrain to use common fucking sense and read. Not to mention, when people tell you shit, you outright say.

"No, it's fine."

What the fuck is the point of us ever replying to your piece of shit work anyhow? To waste our breathes? Fuck you and your piece of shit hack. I can't wait till you run out of trial posts, that way you can rot, you ungrateful waste of oxygen.

Just to prove my point that you're an idiot and that you can't figure shit out by yourself, I'll even fucking quote people. Also, I'm not going to make screens of your hack, cause I refuse to download it. The video should be able to speak volumes.

How the fuck is that difficult to understand?

Mismatching chunks. Plain and fucking simple. Just take a fucking look at your level. In a loop where the middle is empty, why would there be a chunk that lets you go through a tunnel, in the middle of the fucking loop? 

What is this? Even better descriptions by Irixion, best take a piece from it and break it up into itty bitty pieces? 

That difficult for you to understand? YOUR LAYOUTS DON'T FUCKING MAKE SENSE. THERE IS NO FLOW. IT IS CONFUSING.

I can't see many people playing it then. It's a mess, chunks everywhere, enemies you can't avoid and the list goes on. Do you enjoy playing your hack? Well I don't feel anybody here did.




And finally this. Guess what, he's right. Nobody played your god damned hack. The video was enough to tell players to fuck off. 

Speaking of, fuck your video. I was nice this time by saying that your intro shouldn't be longer than 15 seconds, but I was being REALLY FUCKING NICE. I don't like intro that are more than 5 seconds, at best. If you can capture the attention of the audience within the first 10 second, guess what? 

You fucking lose people. 

So guess what faggot? Your hack is shit, and nobody wants it. Also, cute. You worked on it all night and you want us to be impressed by it? 

"It seem like you're trying to impressive your alcoholic father. Be a good boy and grab Daddy another beer."

It takes more than one night to work on a hack. Nobody is expecting your hack, nor do we care for it. Stop trying to release this shit to the public. It isn't ready. Come back when you've spent actual time on it. Most people on here who release builds of their hack have been working on it for at least a few WEEKS, not HOURS. You want to post shit, post it here. Stop making these topics for you hacks, they don't deserve a topic.

http://sonicresearch.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3612&page=7

On another note, we can't tell you how to fix everything, we can only tell you there's an issue, and give suggestions on how to solve it. That is your fucking job to figure it out. Stop being a lazy cunt and come up with ideas. Hell, I even suggested that you plan your layouts, and not have clusterfuck fun time with SonED2. 

So all in all, you're a dumbass, and we're all getting fairly annoyed by you as well. Have a nice day.

- Sincerely, SuperEgg

 Aka, Kevin Cole.

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P.S. If I get my Pro-User Status revoked, or temp banned, I have one thing to say. Well fucking worth it.

 

I can't speak in behalf of the whole staff of course, but I think you don't need to worry. As much as I hate to see someone bashing a newcomer, as much as I hate people being outright rude, ... this time I just can't avoid to side with you.

 

I can pull something out of my ass that's better than this in 10 minutes. No seriously. I'll start right now. Post a layout in 10 minutes. 8:25. BRB to prove a point.

Edit:

Here. Eat this. Took me longer to set up Dropbox to upload this than to actually make it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qcc6diw3nijkph/s2built.bin

10 minutes to make this. It was a complete random and unthought out level edit, but at least it has flow, and no broken chunks. I've even fixed up some of EHZ's original broken chunks and tiles!

This makes no sense. At all. But okay.

 

ok fine i understand im going to make a very big improvement and it will take a long time and im planning to get this hack finished by 19th November 2013   

so there. im not going to post any more topics until this hack is finished 

 

Just post five more times and put us out of our misery, thank you.

 

What is this? Purple tunnels? Still better than what I've seen from anything you've made.



Alternate paths? Good Heavens, we've hit complicated waters.



Where does that spring lead? I know, an alternate path!!!!

I hope you get the picture. Also, get rid of that ridiculous deadline. Why make a deadline? Are we asking for your hack?