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  1. HiddenPalace

    HiddenPalace Active Member Member

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    What would happen if I were to copy all the data from the wfz boss including its level event routines and put it into a unused object for use as the hpz boss? Whould I have to rename all the loc_(s) and routines? I would modify some data in the asm of course.
     
  2. DanielHall

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  3. HiddenPalace

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    I have made a new object in s2 but I keep getting this message:


    (>s2.asm(80455): error: jump distance too big


    > > > bsr.l LoadChildObject


    > > >s2.asm(80491): error: jump distance too big


    > > > bsr.l Obj_GetOrientationToPlayer)


    What can I do to get around this?
     
  4. EMK-20218

    EMK-20218 The Fuss Maker Member

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    change these BSR into JSR
     
  5. DanielHall

    DanielHall Well-Known Member Member

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    Change bsr.l to jsr


    Why did you make it .l anyway?
     
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    EMK-20218 The Fuss Maker Member

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    This doesn't exactly need to be longword, so a secondary way to fix this (the most proper one) is by change these bsr.l into simply bsr.


    The game will automatically set up to a proper value when his hack gets compiled. Hey, Dandaman955... you said him the same thing I told before. =P
     
  7. DanielHall

    DanielHall Well-Known Member Member

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    You must have posted the same time as me. Xo
     
  8. Selbi

    Selbi Kickstart My Ass Retired Staff

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    Just want to point out: bsr.l doesn't even exist, only bsr.s and bsr.w.
     
  9. DanielHall

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    jsr > bsr.w > bsr.s
     
  10. EMK-20218

    EMK-20218 The Fuss Maker Member

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    I posted BEFORE YOU If you didn't see. Don't be lazy, please read the topic before post something.


    Going back to the topic...


    ...Well, something similar can also be applied to any other long distance related problem. Per example, if you moved the subroutine for somewhere far from the pointer, you can also remove the .s (that means to a subroutine) from the function, so it will not search for a subroutine anymore and your data can be far from the pointer without any compilation problem. Like Selbi said, longword isn't applied for branching functions.


    EDIT: Grammar fixes
     
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  11. DanielHall

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    Anyways HiddenPalace, like Selbi said; bsr.l doesn't exist. the next one up is jsr, which is pretty much able to branch anywhere. Same goes for Bra; use jmp.
     
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  12. MarkeyJester

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    You posted at 1:37, he posted at 1:37 (At least according to my clock), therefore it's clear to me that you both were posting it at near the very same time, but yours managed to get in first.


    How about, you don't be lazy, please read the "timestamps" before passing judgement, because that was uncalled for.
     
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  13. Hanoch

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    Also since there's no jump command for the conditional branches (beq, bne etc..) its possible to make a macro for the conditional branches and call them jeq/jne or something (Hivebrain did it with the SVN disassembly).
     
  14. HiddenPalace

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    I made the new object and put it in hpz but now the stage won't load.(It is wfz boss with modifications)
     
  15. SpirituInsanum

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    You put it in hpz? Like: you opened soned2, added an object corresponding to the boss on the map and saved?
     
  16. HiddenPalace

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    I did add a sub object of it to hpz using soned2.
     
  17. SpirituInsanum

    SpirituInsanum Well-Known Member Member

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    I can't tell for sure whether this is the problem or not, but the boss object shouldn't be placed in the level but created by the program in the "dynamic level events" when you reach some given coordinates.
     
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  18. EMK-20218

    EMK-20218 The Fuss Maker Member

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    I'm sorry, I commited a mistake. My timestamp confused me.

    Wow, lately you've been complimenting me a lot huh, Markey? xD


    Nah, let's definitely stop with this shitty discussion and let's back to the topic!
     
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  19. HiddenPalace

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    When it tries to load the boss the pallet changes and the game freezes.
     
  20. SpirituInsanum

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    Freezes at this level of coding are often caused by a call to something that doesn't exist. A freeze related to the routine counter, as seen with the rexon's bug, or trying to load an object that has no reference in the object pointer list are two of the most simple examples.


    But of course it could be something else.