Hacktube down, for the moment.

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  1. Qjimbo

    Qjimbo Well-Known Member Member

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    The emulator hacktube uses has recently run into some trouble. It seems the owner of another website that uses the same emulator is trying to claim copyright over it, and as such get it removed from everywhere else. He has filed a very dubious looking copyright claim to my web hosting, which we are currently trying to solve.


    Our web hosting's procedure instructs me to remove the files for 14 business days until this issue as resolved. I may work on an "offline hacktube" where all the hacks can be downloaded in one pack, bundled with an emulator, just to tie us over until then.


    If anyone wishes to port an emulator to java for us, it would be very much appreciated!


    UPDATE: We are in the process of getting an applet version of the emulator "jEnesis" coded up, and it should be ready by next week. It features more "normal" controls (A S D = A B C), better sound emulation, and better performance.
     
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  2. amphobius

    amphobius spreader of the pink text Member

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    Aw, gay.
     
  3. OrdosAlpha

    OrdosAlpha RIGHT! Naebody move! Administrator

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    Gay. Mind you, I ain't heard from the French twat since the second e-mail. Though, I do find it strange that he's claiming sole copyright when he was part of the trio behind the emulator. Do the others not have any claim to the emulator, or a say in how it's used? Christ, it became vapourware when the decided to cease developing it four years ago. How he can claim copyright when the program infringes on the copyrights and intellectual property rights of several other companies - Motorola, Yamaha, Zilog and of course, Sega - is beyond me. I doubt he has a licencing agreement/contract with any of them.


    You could give Jenesis a whirl, though I don't know how it handles, as I've never used it, or any Java based emulator.
     
  4. Qjimbo

    Qjimbo Well-Known Member Member

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    He filed for copyright of the product in 2007. Here's a copy of his certificate proving copyright, supposedly, and what got my hosting so up in arms about it:


    http://sonicresearch.org/potatomulti.jpg


    The applet was available for use on websites in 2005, you can even confirm that our applet is from October by checking the dates of the files inside the jar. Therefore, anyone who obtained permission to use PotatoMulti on their website, could have gotten the copyright for it. There is no proof he was the sole creator of the work, and it was widely distributed prior to the filing of this copyright.


    I'm just hoping that my hosting sees sense and tells this trouble maker to go elsewhere, allowing me to put the emulator back online.


    P.S. Just saw him viewing this topic, with the IP 78.192.6.18 (geo-ip's to paris) at 2:55am (before I made this post), just an fyi, this is now blocked from the entire server.
     
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  5. OrdosAlpha

    OrdosAlpha RIGHT! Naebody move! Administrator

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    There's a reason why no other emulator author(s) have filed for copyright - the original copyright holders of the hardware that the software emulates would come down on them like a tonne of bricks. Love how the certificate doesn't specify that it's a program that emulates the Sega Mega Drive.
     
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  6. Spanner

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    Well this is annoying. If only there were some alternative methods into using hacktube.


    At least some stuff could be revamped once it's back online.
     
  7. ddrmaxromance

    ddrmaxromance Well-Known Member Member

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    This is somewhat off-topic, but how does he own the rights to use an image of Mr. Potato Head with his emulator? Every time it would load, it would show a picture of Hasbro's product. So wouldn't this be considered illegal unless he specifically earned permission from the toy company to use the image?
     
  8. OrdosAlpha

    OrdosAlpha RIGHT! Naebody move! Administrator

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    That's a valid point. Permission must be attained, and I highly doubt that it was attained.
     
  9. Tongara

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    Sounds like a fuck. This is why no one likes the french.
     
  10. voice

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    Perhaps someone could shoot a email to Sega? Seems reasonable to me.
     
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