Sonic Hacking Contest 2016

How about this, considering that the only NSFW thing last year (to my knowledge) was the SonicMT easter egg.
The creator would need to elaborate exactly what content is NSFW, in terms of what can and cannot be played within work. I don't think it's appropriate to give an entire hack a NSFW tag if one small, tiny easter egg that most people aren't going to find is unsafe.

 

To add on StoneBanana, tagging a hack as NSFW when there's nothing obviously unsafe from the main part of the hack will be very suspicious and ruin the surprise almost certainly.

 

Yeah, I'm tired of this shit.

Here's a simple answer to everybody bitching about NSFW warnings or whatever.

Fuck off

The day we add a warning for NSFW is the day we allow Homebrew into this contest. If your tiny poor, prepubescent, penises can't handle a slow to read erotic fanfic that a small number of people will even bothered to fully read, much less be bothered to get to, then you're all a bunch of cucks.

If you honestly thought SonicMT needed a warning, then you're all a bunch of sensitive cunts.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Advance_3:_Extreem_Manseckz

See that hack above? It was entered into the Sonic Hacking Contest a few years back. This was even intentional with the NSFW shit, and nobody bitched then, and you're all bitching about a hard to find NSFW secret that people had to provide a savestate, because only a few people get to it. Fuck off, grow up. If you don't want to see NSFW stuff, go somewhere else.

 

Haha, looks like the bear was angered and decided to shout a bit.

However, despite the abrasiveness characteristic of our beloved SuperEgg, he has a point. We haven't had an NSFW tag in the past for hacks, and the incident that happened regarding SomeCallMeJohnny's stream was a slip of mismanagement behind the scenes for us as a staff, not because it wasn't labeled NSFW. We, as a team, failed to properly contact and get Johnny on the same page, and that was why what happened did happen. When there's proper NSFW hacks in the contest, the content is either blatant enough that you should know from the description and/or name, or it's hidden behind some easter egg that you actually have to go out of your way to find. Labeling SonicMT as NSFW just because of the obscure easter egg would have eliminated most of the audience from going near it in fear as well as spoil the easter egg. It would have ruined most of the point of the hack, and ruined the fun. Do you lot really want that? Do you want to have hacks tainted by NSFW tags for *any* NSFW content and basically corrupt all the good work of a hack over one small in-joke hidden away? It's not as simple as just stamping on NSFW tags and walking away. And what happened with Johnny's stream isn't as it looked. I'm owning up to that screw-up, as will the rest of the staff that were around at the time. NSFW tags would have probably completely taken it out of the streaming cycle entirely. Do you lot want that? Do you really?

Think about it. This is anything but black and white as a decision.

 

That's why we're discussing about letting it pass or not. It's not a reason to be pissed. I'm aganinst NSFW warnings, because it's like calling all Super Mario games gory and offensive, because Mario is stomping enemies and beating Yoshi. 80% of members are cussing and most people haven't 18 age. For me it's pointless.

 

ok ok ok i get it

 

It isn't about being a surprise. It's about the content being there in the first place.

If you are entering something into a contest which has anything NSFW, that should be disclosed. I don't care if it was one hack in the contest or every single one of them; it makes us look bad if we get one negative reaction. It makes all of us look bad.

If it meant that we had something that was actually broadcastable (Twitch and YouTube Terms of Service forbid NSFW content, by the way), then yes. I want that. I want an event that makes us look better off.

Of course it's black & white. It's a contest. It isn't a public release. By all means, have surprises there.

 

You are, quite literally, saying that NSFW easter eggs shouldn't exist in the first place either. In turn, if we tag hacks as such, they will almost certainly lose exposure during the contest, something that has been tackled slightly by the streamers in the recent years, who would obviously avoid playing the hack entirely.

How does it make "us" look unprofessional anyway? If I were to submit a hack that had another steamy fanfic of me sucking another scener's dick hidden in it and I don't tell any of the judges, how is anyone but me to blame when it comes to light? Plus, I really don't get what's NSFW to the point of being against YouTube's or Twitch's ToS of a goddamn fanfic. It's not like anyone posted pictures of their used condoms in there.

If it REALLY is such a problem, tell the streamers in complete privacy if there's something in it to avoid for a live stream

 

Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying they should be disclosed. Don't put words in my mouth.

And of course it makes us look unprofessional. It reflects the community. It reflects the contest. It isn't just the person who submits it who looks like a dick - we all do. If it makes a better community event for everyone, then I want that -- you tell me, if you don't have to tick a box that says "my hack contains something which is NSFW", then you don't have to worry about it. Most people don't.

 

A lot of you seem to forget what NSFW actually stands for; Not safe for work.

How many of you play hacks at work? If you do, you should be fired!

 

We've discussed this quite a bit over IRC just now, and it seems like a general compromise was found within an addition to the entry submission form. Basically, there should be another textbox where submitters can leave notes directly for the judges, as in, the general public cannot see them.

This could serve multiple purposes, the least of which is notifying where and how to find certain NSFW, should we have such content again. The judges have to keep it entirely confidential to anyone except for official streamers, who in turn should also show respect to not tell it either.

I think this is the best compromise we could get.

 

Dang it RHS, I wanted to make that joke

Edit: I had a big wall of text here, but it seems we've come to a consensus.

 

You know what? This is hacking. Should not you actually EXPECT stuff to be edgy?
And yes, -18 people do and watch worse, but only hide it because others does not accept this fact.

I can barely agree with an internal messagging system, but only because it can work as a solution. Inside I feel uneasy. Openly exposing some kind of my own easter eggs to a group of people defeats the point of it being "easter egg" on itself.

 

i have a solution!

developers may put a warning in the hack itself
so, if you find an easter egg, you encouter a message saying that you should reset or press a certain button if you don't want NSFW, and after 5 sec. the easter egg actually appears.

That's not an ultimate solution, but that would work better

 

No. No, I actually do not expect things to be "edgy" as you say. In fact, I think there are barely any "edgy" hacks that aren't being ironic or making a joke.

You're basically saying, "I'm uneasy about this because it works." Er... wat?

Well, this isn't about ANY easter egg you have in your hack. I think the internal messaging system is mostly for risky content in hacks that the streamers should avoid. So if anything, I think your secrets would be safe.

 

Meant edgy as in overall.

wondering, am I part of your mind​

I am not uneasy because it works, I say that I agree to that as a possible solution, just that I feel uneasy because systems may fail you know...

in any way (literal way, serious) d
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Eh, if NSFW is really a big deal, maybe we should make another PEGI rating to confuse entire community even more? - warnings and other shit only complicate making hacks even more. Can we just make a message before main page "This is SHC 2016 - it has NSFW content in a few entries, if you're can't handle a Sonic Fanbase - get out!"...? Think about it guys - we're already "edgy" overall as a hackers..

 

I was contacted regarding some incredibly stupid idea just now that people are suggesting that hacks with certain content in them should be marked as NSFW.

For now there will be no NSFW tags in the hacking contest. I will discuss this with Spanner and the rest of the contest staff and, if we feel it is necessary, it will be added in some form in the future.

 

Just saying for the record, but I just find it rather strange to even consider a 18+/NSFW tag for hacks when people and even the streamers make these kinds of jokes all the time. I realize the fanfic was rather descriptive, but still. Criticizing a joke for being "NSFW" in streams when people in the streams make jokes like this anyway just comes off as hypocrisy to me.