We need a forum for Sonic hack game reviews.

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  1. DwhitetheGamer

    DwhitetheGamer You got a serious fight in your hands. Member

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    I thought of this a little while back, and I was wondering: What do people think about Sonic hacks made by other people?

    That's where this idea comes up.  Users can make their own reviews (As long as they play them.), but users can't review their own hacks.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. ⸸ devon ⸸

    ⸸ devon ⸸ There's nothing left but faith Member

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    People can write their reviews in the threads themselves. Also, why would anyone write a review on their own hack?
     
  3. Misinko

    Misinko Oh SHIT it's the Biolizard! Member

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    What Ralakimus said. People can (and often do) write a review of a person's hack in the hack's topic.
     
  4. nineko

    nineko I am the Holy Cat Member

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    Yup, the existing Showroom forum is still the best place to do so, in my opinion. One might object that the auto topic lock prevents people from commenting on older hacks, but that auto lock also prevents people from posting things like "when will a new version come out?" or "the download link is broken". I'd agree with the suggestion of a separate forum section if its access would be restricted to certain usergroups, so it would be harder for a respected member to post things like the ones I mentioned above. This is similar to what smspower started doing since a couple of weeks ago, with a Reviews forum where trusted people can post reviews of any game.


    Still, not a bad idea per se.
     
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  5. DwhitetheGamer

    DwhitetheGamer You got a serious fight in your hands. Member

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    Well, instead of having a shitload of topics regarding Sonic hack reviews on other forums on this site, we should just put them all in one forum.

    EDIT:  Damn it, nineko!  Posting before I could.  This was addressed to the two who posted before you, but I see your point.
     
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  6. nineko

    nineko I am the Holy Cat Member

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    I was actually kinda agreeing with you, for once, while expanding on the current scenario. A dedicated section would be nice, but it would also be tricky, unless properly moderated. Otherwise, every other post of the review topic for S1EE / Megamix / Sonic Classic Heroes / Sonic Popular Hack #9000 would be along the lines of "can I has betaa".
     
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  7. LazloPsylus

    LazloPsylus The Railgun Member

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    I'm with nineko on this. It could be a decent idea, but it needs a degree of control over the review process so that it's not a free for all that everyone can post to. Solve that, and who knows, maybe it'll kick up some more interest in various hacks that otherwise could slip under the radar...
     
  8. DwhitetheGamer

    DwhitetheGamer You got a serious fight in your hands. Member

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    nineko: I could help with that!  You see, I happen to have some experience with reviewing games on a forum who has said Game Reviews forum. 
     
  9. MarkeyJester

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    I say, go review something, then make a "General Review Thread" topic, explain the premise, and then start it off with your review. If the thread has any interest, others will follow. If not, then it'll be left to gather dust, and nothing more. We'll all continue as if nothing had happened, no harm done.

    I feel this disclosure is pointless, i.e. making a thread to ask if making another thread is OK. Just make the thread you were contemplating, or; ask a member of staff via PM. It saves time, memory and controversy between members whose opinions do not mean anything in the matter.
     
  10. nineko

    nineko I am the Holy Cat Member

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    To be fair, this isn't a topic about creating another topic. It's a topic suggesting that we lack a dedicated forum section. Which isn't a bad idea per se.
     
  11. MarkeyJester

    MarkeyJester ♡ ! Member

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    OK, assuming that is what was meant then...

     
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    Technically, though, there are pros and cons to this as far as I'm seeing.

    For one, this would allow people to write reviews on some hacks that, under normal circumstances, would be left to sink under the radar's scanner range, so to speak. Additionally, it would reduce the clutter of threads and may actually even assist in organizing the boards a bit.

    There's an issue with this, though:
    As everyone else has said, moderation is a huge problem here. You'd have to ensure it isn't a sixteen-thousand-way free-for-all that everybody and his brother ends up posting in. Thus, I would suggest having a "sectional moderator" (something similar used to exist on SGD, though now it doesn't) that moderates the review forum specifically. They wouldn't need to be given any mod powers for other parts of the boards. Just a thought.

    I think that's pretty much all from me.

    EDIT: Added quote.
     
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  13. N30member

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    Actually, every forum have its sectional moderators, not only SGD. 

    By the way, I don't think that people is needed in Reviews soo much.
     
  14. SuperEgg

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    Interesting prospect. The idea of having a game review sub forum sounds promising. In fact, this is probably the best thing I've heard you spout since you joined on here. But, you even having mod powers, that's a different story. Saying you have experience without even giving a tiny background of where from is mildly scary. With the way you post, you seem far from qualified to moderate reviews. I could be wrong, but if anything, the people who should be on the moderation panel would be the SHC judges, or people who have been around long enough to understand what it is they're exactly looking at.

    What I mean is, not generalized people who play hacks, but people who understand the basic principles of hacking and it's finer critiques. You know, a friend of mine on Retro mentioned he wasn't very enthralled with how Johnny reviewed some of the hacks last year, feeling he missed the point. And to be honest, he probably did, as he isn't a hacking connoisseur, he is a man looking in...technically.(That's a story for another day.)

    If this were to be a thing, definitely rules would need to be set in place. A generalized system of how things are to be reviewed, a critique sheet, ect. Hell, I have a few posts that people use today as examples of how level flow should be handled. So, there's something.

    All in all, a good idea DWhite, though it looks oddly suspicious that you would promote yourself to head such a thing, but maybe that's the untrusting old man that lies around in my body.

    Oh hush, like you know the first thing about organization. Go sit in the corner quietly and think about what you've done.

    Moderation isn't that difficult to handle. There are 4 Admins, 2 staff members, and a shit ton of Pro-Users. There is bound to be somebody who knows how to moderate a sub forum. It isn't rocket science. And even if that doesn't work, we have that magical SHC judges panel(which I happen to be on) that can moderate.

    Seriously TomasSlowWalker, it's not that hard. Stop wasting posts with idiocy.
     
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  15. OrdosAlpha

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    Don't see the harm in having a dedicted sub-forum for reviews. I do agree that a code of conduct would need to be established, one that every review must follow.

    Posting priviledges for the sub-forum would be limited to the Member group and up. Trialists would have viewing rights only. Plus, only Pro Users would be considered for sub-forum moderation positions, if required.
     
  16. DwhitetheGamer

    DwhitetheGamer You got a serious fight in your hands. Member

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    I see your point, SuperGoose (or SuperEgg, whichever you prefer).

    Maybe your right about the "Background" crap, which I'll provide now.

    Over at the forum I mentioned earlier, there is a Sub-Forum dedicated to Game Reviews... well, NORMAL reviews, anyway.  I done a few reviews myself, including Sonic Lost World, which I gave an 8.25.  (It's my opinion.)  I usually go into detail like this:

    The Story:  Every game now has to have a story one way or another.

    The Gameplay:  This obviously states you played the game yourself.

    The Graphics:  This is optional in the hacking games' cases.

    The Music:  What I think about the music.  Some parts I like, what I don't like, ect.

    Multiplayer:  I'm not sure if the Sonic hacks have some sort of multiplayer, so this is optional, too.

    Overall:  I give my final verdict, rating between 1 to 10 (Which is pretty much how rating games today works.)

    Hope this helps.

    EDIT:  Damnit!  First nineko, now Ordos!  :p
     
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  17. nineko

    nineko I am the Holy Cat Member

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    Then again, it's possible to post reviews on the Repository (they're even called like that, "Reviews"), we all forgot about that. It's just that not all the hacks are uploaded there.
     
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  18. TheStoneBanana

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    Yeah, I'm thinking that having a subforum to review hacks is pointless, due to the fact that there are other places that the exact same thing can be done.

    Just my two cents.
     
  19. DwhitetheGamer

    DwhitetheGamer You got a serious fight in your hands. Member

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    I didn't realize that.  I should've looked a little before posting this...
     
  20. nineko

    nineko I am the Holy Cat Member

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    Don't worry too much, even I forgot about that, and besides, many hacks aren't on the Repository at all, so your suggestion is more than relevant anyway.
     
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