Sonic 2: Archives

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  1. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Hi everybody!
    Today I want to present my hack on Sonic 2 that restores some of proto conceptions!
    In this demo presented 2,5 zones: Emerald hill, Desert level (at this moment- untitled), and first act of Metropolis. After it begins EHZ and game starts again.
    Were realized wall recoil, some unused animations, and few unused conceptions.

    Bugs:
    Bad lava collisions on MTZ
    Problems with loops on Desert level.

    Credits:
    Main programming: Me
    Help with coding: TheBlad768
    Metropolis music: Toxic Foxtrot
    Metropolis bg: Pacca the satyr
    Desert zone assets: E-122-Psi

    Special thanks to EddyTF, Dark Shamil Khan,Rrose80149, and lavagaming1. Oh, and Clownacy for Clonedriver :)

    And I forgot to credit the great and terrible
    DeltaWooloo/EpsilionDubwool
    For helping in music programming!

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    Btw, happy new year, my dudes!
     

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  2. NayTheGamer

    NayTheGamer next release coming on 3rd of November 2023 In Limbo

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    nice hack but i only played two zones because of me getting a game over. Anyway, there is some good and bad news. lets start with the bad news.
    for the speedshoes in emerald hill zone, it gets slowed down but in reality it should be getting faster, another bug is that on the sega screen when sonic runs down the sega screen,
    its slightly corrupted, now idk if thats because you needed to add more sprites to sonic and update the DPLC's and such, so that needs fixing too. another one is the title card for dust hill zone,
    its empty and the only things that exists is *Zone* and The *act number* so maybe try and put more effort for the title cards. there are also some minor bugs like a screen flash in emerald hill zone on kega.
    now because its on kega, I'm not going to roast too hard.
    there is some flawed level design in dust hill zone, for instance the sand, there is some bottomless pits to your death that i don't like, same goes for some non collision sand, but i'm willing to let that slide because iv'e seen that
    in other sonic 2 beta hacks in sonic 2 the lost levels in the same zone.
    my total score to this hack is 6/10 good score/hack but does have some room for improvment. Keep up the good work tho.
     
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  3. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Thanks for responding! All bugs will be fixed. Maybe, to next release. Also, I need to fix some things for make it work on real hardware.

    Btw, here is little mockup for Ocean Wind zone:
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    P.S.: Thanks to Razor and Zenon for video playground of this hack!
     
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  4. SERGK393

    SERGK393 Newcomer Trialist

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    A wonderful hack! The approach to music is just great! I watched all the levels through the par-codes, there is already a Hidden Palace on the way. But I would like to discuss about the place with the mountain where it is necessary to loop the level vertically. I have the developments of this level and I can share it, since there is a more significant idea for a hack than this.
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  5. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Thanks! Actually, you can go to HPZ, WZ and even early OWZ through level select, you just need to know code (666, lol) and select right zone :)
    That pictures of HPZ looks impressive! Is it mockups, or your actual hack?
     
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  6. SERGK393

    SERGK393 Newcomer Trialist

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    It's my actual hack)
    But I have a little bugs, for example, transparent water in going to top of the level.
    You can speak in Russian? I want to help with Sonic 2 concept, and discuss by this. Can you send me to inbox?
     
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  7. JGamer2151

    JGamer2151 Well-Known Member/Lurker Member

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    These new concepts put into HPZ in your hack really makes the zone more lively than the prototype versions, makes it feel like a finalized version of the level if it was ever indeed finished in Sonic 2's development time.
     
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  8. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    So, I reread the first post here, and I noticed that I didn't tell you about my plans at all! (oops)

    Well, the Sonic 2: Archives project aims to restore discarded concepts that were used in the early stages of game development. This is music that in many cases will be remixes of demo recordings by Masato Nakamura, it will be graphics from prototypes, or concept art. Or invented from scratch. Also enemies, and some abilities, like wall recoil.

    How far will this hack go?
    Well, I don't want to immediately set a goal to restore all 18+ zones, to begin with - I want to restore zones from the "present", that is, this
    Emerald Hill
    Ocean Wind
    Wood/Secret Jungle
    Sand Shower/Dust Hill/Desert World
    Metropolis.

    If I manage to restore them, then I will work on other levels.

    Now I have a large team, and I think this task is feasible. Who knows, maybe we'll even make it to shc! ^_^

    I hasn't new demo, but I have a few screenshots for this thread :)

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    Btw, what do you all thinks about Tails' flight? Should it be in game?
     
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  9. RobiWanKenobi

    RobiWanKenobi Python Developer and ASM enthusiast Member

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    I think that:
    1. Tails flight should be in the game.
    2. I think your ideas for this hack are cool
    3. you should call the desert Sand Shower for now
     
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  10. Gabby24680

    Gabby24680 Newcomer Trialist

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    I saw this hack on Youtube and it looks cool. I wonder though, if you and the team do add the other zones from the other time periods. Will time travel also be added?
     
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  11. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Time travel is a plot feature, that works not like in SCD. It's a part of story :)
    I'm and some of my team is busy by studying, have exams, so I want it, but can't say how much time periods will be added. Ofcource, I have a plans for Medieval and Past, but for the first- we need to make at least Present :)
     
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    Gabby24680 Newcomer Trialist

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    Ok, since the Medieval times zones are unknown. What zones would be there if they we’re added
     
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  13. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Zones, that not marked on the other maps :)
     
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  14. Gabby24680

    Gabby24680 Newcomer Trialist

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    So Madness Mountain, Aquatic Ruin and Emerald Isle?
     
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  15. Gabby24680

    Gabby24680 Newcomer Trialist

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    Btw why isn't the Desert Zone just called Sand Shower?
     
  16. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Some news, guys!

    Now, Sand Shower now has parallax!
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    (Made by lavagaming1)

    And here is little update for level select:
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  17. Ravenfreak

    Ravenfreak Still hacking the 8-bit titles Member

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    I believe this may be the first time I've seen that zone have parallax scrolling so good job on that! :)
     
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  18. Gabby24680

    Gabby24680 Newcomer Trialist

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    Why is there a Cabaret option in the level select?
     
  19. Nik Pi

    Nik Pi Well-Known Member Member

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    Idk, maybe placeholder
     
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    Gabby24680 Newcomer Trialist

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    Is this still being worked on?